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| therapy | Q3 2025 | Q2 2025 | Q3 2024 | y/y |
| Spinraza royalty | $56 | $54 | $57 | -2% |
| Tryngolza sales | 32 | 19 | 0 | na |
| Wainua royalty | 13 | 10 | 5 | 160% |
| Tegsedi + Waylivra | 7 | 14 | 5 | 40% |
| R&D collaboration | 31 | 337 | 45 | -31% |
| Wainua joint dev | 10 | 12 | 13 | -23% |
Non-GAAP numbers: net income negative $98 million, sequentially up from negative $154 million, and up from negative $108 million year-earlier. No non-GAAP EPS given.
Cash ended at $2.2 billion, down sequentially from $2.3 billion. Reduced long-term debt (convertible notes) to $0 in Q3 2025, but increased current notes liabilities to $1.2 billion.
Ionis continues to develop technologies that allow RNA therapies to almost any part of the body, including inhaled agents.
Ionis has a pipeline of about 45 potential drugs, with 13 in clinical development, and 9 in Phase 3 trials. A growing number are wholly-owned.
GAAP Operating expense was $317 million, consisting of $2 million for cost of goods sold; $218 million for R&D and $97 million for selling, general and administrative. Operating income was negative $160 million. Other income net was $31 million. Income tax $0 million.
Q&A selective summary:
Shape of launch for sHTG? Pent up demand? We already are getting inqueries from physicians. 3,000 HCPs are first targets of the sales force, but will expand to 20,000. Many current patients are on standard of care but not getting to goal. We expect strong uptake based on the interest and what we have learned about the market so far.
Anything concerning about data outside of topline results; acute pancreatitis? Detailed data will be released at American Heart Association on November 8. We see nothing to be concerned about. We believe protection against acute pancreatitis is very good.
Olezarsen peak revenue? Greater than $1 billion per year.
Alexander peak revenue? Greater than $100 million per year.
Final pricing for Olezarsen (Tryngolza)? Will not be decided for sHTG until 2026, will announce upon approval.
Generally, the higher the triglycerides, the higher the incidence of AP. Our study shows triglycerides are driving the events, and lowering triglycerides lowers the event rate.
For Dawnzera we have not seen at 11,000 number, we are using 7,000 potential patients.
FCS patient, prescriber details? We've been IDing patients. Working with highest prescribing patients. Physicians are looking for these patients, test for them. Payers are streamlining the process. Disease education is approving.
The goal is to prevent the first AP attack, that is the key value for payers.
We are seeing switches from all the approved treatments to Dawnzera.
We expect Wainua revenue to continue to grow. AstraZeneca is doing a good job with it.
External capital development? Plenty of cash to execute on our launches. Focus is on internal growth through our pipeline.
sHTG dropout rate? Dropout rate was very low, about half our original expectation. Very well tolerated medicine.
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